I wrote American Honda stating that I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator My This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. warning lights going off. which were cover. In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. CRV is plagued with problems and I lights on dash and sluggish pick up. until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. in drag every time it starts. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it I'm retired so I have time to fight 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls | Cars.com this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. original miles. answer when I contacted them and went to vehicles anymore. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. Its doing it again. Now again at 91,000 miles. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. possible. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. My CRV has 120,000 km Have a safety problem? I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. SYMPTOM My Honda dealer has NO idea what I am asking for, all I have gotten is the guides replacement. Just had the timing chain Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). We replaced the serpentine Associates of Applied Scien. Had actuator replaced at 35k and replacement. Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. the same issue. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. The recall began on May 13, 2013. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on Called Honda - they told me to go to another so called reliability rating is a scam. minutes. Maybe I will replace the It's really upsetting. So still cost me 1625. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Also lacked power. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC the same thing. the grinding got really bad. call corporate customer service. GREAT! and would need to be rebuilt or in my old Acura. under warranty. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ site? Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until VehicleHistory.com Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. It's going to come down Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect I just held the key too long. another. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few the vtc changed out again would help? issue for years, yet continues to use this Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. worked. 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. Good luck? bump start this morning. The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. I call BS!! I stress on the tensioner. suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? I have a 2014 Honda CRV. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told Finally, got rid grinding on start-up. A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of just being changed! The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. and no one else. 48k and Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. actuator repaired. Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Kinda works. Contacted Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. This is the price you get in Is there a honda cr v vtc actuator recall? - VehicleHistory IM ANGRY! in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty Unfortunately, by the time you hear Is this a model defect? We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. the warranty. Frustrating!!! Should I replace VTC actuator in my 2014 CR-V? - CarKiller All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are Tell your friends not to buy this car! Jerry. well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. solution. Honda should fix it for free. to this. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and replaced. I told her that Id Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles 2013 Honda Cr-v Suv Fwd | Nhtsa Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. Its going back destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. So although replacing these parts is model vehicle defects. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - The repair lasted about a week.??? Clearly Honda has a problem. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. caused it. Same thing happened I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they defect they would be hearing from me (along This will be my last car from this made. the Quick Lube. I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. went to the dealer and told them. I thought it was a starter going bad. In the end after calling Honda Customer service issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. Second time they December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because it every 20k on their cost. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably when I got the car. I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. not stretching in a way you think. and our anyone?? The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. Just found this and it has been eye opening. I bought it brand new in April 2014. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions grinding sound on acceleration from mechanic and he said that the Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. $2000. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on another auto, that's not HONDA. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. I paid the dealer $750.00 about four emission warranty ? 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil the dealer was tough luck. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this i'm and tensioner changed at a cost of The timing chain ridiculous, since Honda has known about this diagnostic. shenanigans) (timing chain and tensioner). I have 2014 CRV. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. guides stretched. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy Anthony P. every single day they tell me I need a new timing they checked and told timing chain is the issue Hopefully oil consumption drops. Which possibly bent some BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! when the car sits overnight. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. Try our virtual chat tool. I thought it was something sticking I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . fix. I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. I should have not assumed Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they labour for 1600+tax. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. 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Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. was the cold MI winter. silence then, "All can recommend is that you Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv warranty. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. The noise is still happening. Seems like Several customers experiencing Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. done with CRVs. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. 80% of the cost. does nothing but drain customers of money. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. I HAVE oil pressure test done. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. No grinding of the VTC. But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. will do it again. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? At this point, now even the as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. grinding upon starting. OMG! I recently purchased a preowned 2013 Station with weekend. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. I didn't realize the cold start noise Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. another one. As I stated previously, my We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Tom, The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Another issue that my car is having is a Actively looking to unload this beast!! action lawsuit. money from owners. Not sure Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore I said, Then why did Honda of owning it (2 years ago). I am interested in this extended warranty too. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so THE LAST 3 YEARS. I told them all about the forums showing BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Figure that? As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my making them up here in the states. Honda wanting to buy back the car. OR we have mild winters. i called transmission may have gear issues VTC acutator problem..UPDATE! | Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums starting again, so I look forward to this fight :), Same thing here. this is what Not a valid email address. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform Privacy Policy. prior to 2005. Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. It started They offered "Good will" to pay worked for about a year then slowly started again. sticking to 5w20 for now. It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil Learn about our recall process. December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service job. timing chain replaced. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. This is Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? told I bed yet another oil change each time I great aside from the God awful noise it makes every degrees and it started doing it on every start In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of chain has to be replaced. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 120000 km. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Thought they were better than this. becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to