While Thai police are still investigating their deaths (the Burmese migrant workers, Zaw Lin and Win Zaq Htun, both 21, who previously confessed have now withdrawn their confessions) shocking photos of the backpackers' bodies are now circulating online, leaving their loved ones understandably horrified and disgusted. We admit that in the past, there was a mafia there that took advantage of tourists. Police believe that, just like in her murder, the two latest victims may have been killed by fishermen who swam ashore in order to target foreigners. He got killed in a racist attack by several white men. 'I didn't intend to insult or criticise anyone. It is claimed Miss Witheridge encountered her attackers, had a conversation with them and may have even shared a cigarette with them before being dragged to her death. He had entered the country on September 26, 2018, before traveling to the island, where stayed at the Monsoon Gym and Fight Club. German Bernd Grotsch's body was found at his home deep in the jungle in the Mae Haad part of Koh Tao. The brutal reality of seeing her like that made me physically sick and ive looked at alot of photos on that sub :/, Is there a reason I cant view them? Traumatizing. By Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday, Published: 11:58 GMT, 20 September 2014 | Updated: 15:22 GMT, 21 October 2014. Official UCL 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread, Which is better Durham or Southampton for Bsc Accoutring and Finance, Official Cambridge Postgraduate Applicants 2023 Thread, The Russell Group hurt/heal game (Part 5), Diagnostic Radiography 3rd year, Ask me anything (healthcare related), TSR Community Awards 2022: Feedback and Suggestions, TSR Community Awards 2022: Most Helpful in Universities- VOTING OPEN. If we haven't already, we should delete the crime scene photo previously posted in a "spoiler", out of respect to the family's wishes. 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Today, we have gotten rid of them.. Those images are shocking because Till is barely recognizable as a human. At 7.47pm David and his friend Chris Ware were filmed walking towards the bar. We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders. Elise's mother Michele van Egten says she does not believe the Thai police's version of events amid fears authorities are working to suppress speculation about the many murders on the island. He originally moved to the island in the late 1990s but left in 2016 after becoming frustrated with the corruption and hostility towards foreign business owners. September 17: Thai police admit they have 'no idea' who killed David Miller and Hannah Witheridge after failing to link any of 12 suspects to the crime. In a speech broadcast live on Thai TV yesterday, he said: There are always problems with tourist safety. Cambodia Expats Online is the most popular community in the country. A royal commutation does not require an admission of guilt. I stumbled across these once a few years ago and I really wish I hadn't seen them. WARNING CONTAINS SOME DISTURBING IMAGES OF DEATH. The picture of his mother standing over his coffin is just heart wrenching. Due to the nature of her passing, our beautiful girl has had little privacy. Officers have taken the details of the fishing boats moored off the islands Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao. Despite claims of a fall, he had no broken bones. by General Mackevili Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:12 am, Post "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they write. As we continue with our plans for our beautiful Hannah's 'party', our thoughts are with David Miller's family who are suffering the same indescribable agony. 2023 BBC. Oh Yes, this one is gruesome . We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. While police ruled out foul play, Nick's family, who say officers did not investigate a single witness, believe he was murdered. They had been brutally beaten to death just a few feet away from their hotel rooms. The two men were convicted and sentenced in 2015 and the verdict was upheld by an appeals court in 2017 and the Supreme Court in August 2019. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6729031/thailand-koh-tao-island-dad-dead-mystery/, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-30546787, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/17/sister-murdered-backpacker-hannah-witheridge-dies-falling-gravely/, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53797951, https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1282946/police-clarify-koh-tao-death-cases, https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1047575-death-island-riddle%C2%A0-koh-tao-mystery-deepens-as-%E2%80%98healthy%E2%80%99-dad-becomes-tenth-westerner-to-die-in-suspicious-circumstances/, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4680394/Haunting-final-image-Koh-Tao-backpacker-Thai-hang-suicide.html, https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailands-death-island-tourist-33-13399601, https://www.chiangraitimes.com/crime-chiang-rai-thailand/body-of-moldavian-tourist-found-dead-in-sea-off-the-island-koh-tao-sent-to-bangkok-for-thorough-autopsy/, https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/443983/suter-hanspeter-body-found-on-beach-in-chumphon-thailand, Koh Tao Murders, Suspicious Deaths, Fatal Accidents Tribute to 20 Foreigners Tony Lotus & 1Survivor, Tagged: Koh Tao - Death Island in Paradise, Cases on the Death Island of Koh Tao, nick pearson koh tao death, The coroner concluded there was not enough evidence to say where or how he met his death. Elise had been traveling around Asia for two years, and before her death had been living at a yoga and tantra retreat on Koh Phangan. Police recovered the body and took it to the neighboring island of Koh Phangan. A local Western businessman though, who did not want to be named, criticised the police for allowing the boats to leave. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. Never seen anything like it': Medics and care workers hits back at Matt Hancock by revealing Rishi Sunak told Matt Hancock that Dominic Cummings' time in Downing Street was 'a nightmare', new WhatsApp Madonna's Skid Row brother: For years the superstar, 64, was accused of shunning him. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to their agony. DO NOT go in blind. It was later revealed the couple in the images were not Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller. An unexplained fire that evening burned down three bamboo huts, including the one Elise had been staying in. Belgian backpacker Elise Dallemagne, 30, was found hanging from a tree on April 27, 2017. After the attack they swam to their boat and boasted to their colleagues. You are the British Consulate in Thailand. To think that the scum who tortured and murdered a child got off and were able to brag about it later is just unbelievable. But they have another dark side to them. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. It's GRAYGATE! September 16: DNA samples taken from the scene do not match those of any of a reported 12 suspects. 5th Oct, 2014. A few days later, staff checked her room to discover her mobile phone, passport and camera had all been left behind. Ten days after he went missing from Sairee Beach on Koh Tao, the body of Swiss tourist Hans Peter Suter, 44, was washed ashore at Talay Ngam beach in Lang Suan district of Chumphon province on Tuesday, November 18, 2014. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao shook the world. Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. What science tells us about the afterlife. Island authorities sued the online news site for violating the Computer Crime Act, which outlaws uploading false information online. The coroner concluded there was not enough evidence to say where or how he met his death. The fact that people e-mailed her family the photos while pretending to be Nikki was enough. 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The island of Koh Tao, off the coast of Thailand, is often described as a paradise. Its a farce.. The worst part is her face. Although both of his hands were tied behind the back, the police said he could have done this himself as the rope was tied to one hand and a loop was made so the other hand could be inserted. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to . I definitely don't think I could handle actually seeing them. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5 am, a few hours after their deaths.Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. Andrew Rosindell, a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said: 'What is most worrying about these comments is the underlying implication about those who have been murdered that they have somehow brought it upon themselves.'. The family of a woman murdered in Thailand have been "traumatised" by photos being circulated online. Controversially, Surat Thani governor Auaychai Innak dismissed as untrue some foreign news reports which claimed reptiles had eaten half of Dallemagne's body. They followed the animal and discovered that it had been feeding on Elise's remains, which were found among rocks behind the Tanote Family Bay Resort. But many cases appear very suspicious according to family members and insufficiently investigated. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to ask that Hannah be allowed a well-deserved day of privacy on Friday whilst we join her many friends in a celebration of her life.". by Soi Dog Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:35 am, Post Bernd had also recently separated from his wife, Oey, a Koh Tao native, with whom he had a seven-year-old daughter, Bene, who had been living for the last two years with his sister, Monica, in Germany. "So for an hour the families of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller looked and listened as crime scene pictures were . The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. That happened very close to my home (like, I could probably see the location if I went for a walk). Five unexpected signs in your 20s and 30s you're at risk of developing heart disease later in life. Later, police released CCTV footage which they claimed showed the students walking hand-in-hand down a street. Copyright 2022 Cambodia Expats Online. It's crazy that the wikipedia page for the Ripper has this picture on it. "Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her.". Read about our approach to external linking. If you enjoyed Oliver Sacks book, you might like this photo project. 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The convictions were mired in controversy, with supporters of the two men arguing they had been framed because their initial confessions were made under duress. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. Hannah and a friend were spotted on CCTV walking down the main strip of Koh Tao towards Choppers bar at 7pm on Sunday. Coincidentally, pictures of Bernd with a snake were to be found online. The crime's brutality amid Koh Tao's insular, backpacker charm caused an international sensation and threatened to further weaken a tourist industry already reeling from the military coup of . Yikes. Hannah was a University of Essex student from Hemsby in Norfolk, UK, and David was a civil and structural engineering graduate, from Jersey. Supposedly these are the first crime scene photos ever taken. Can I ride an elevator while someone is sleeping inside? Im asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? The problem with TikToks Bold Glamour filter, Who has Dua Lipa dated? Today I was contacted by the son of Dave Tarnowski. After weeks of investigations, Thai Police have arrested three Burmese man in relation to the murder of two British tourists David Miller and Hannah Witheridge on the holiday island of Koh Tao.The Burmese migrant worker community is on high . A judge found the workers guilty and sentenced them to death despite questions about DNA evidence and the police handling of the case. At least eleven European tourists have died or disappeared there since 2014 and it is now described as Death Island or Murder Island. September 20: Investigators now say there is no evidence to suggest Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were together on the day they died, with CCTV footage showing Mr Miller walking alone at around 1am. Most topics are about Bangkok and Pattaya because of their larger populations of expatriates and tourists in those cities, but this is for all things Thai. -, Press J to jump to the feed. Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao. There were no signs of fighting or a struggle, nor were foreign objects or substances that could cause loss of consciousness found in the body.. Could you please describe them? Koh Tao Mayor Chaiyan Thurasakul said the website is accused of damaging Koh Taos reputation by calling it Death Island. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. The Samui Times believes that it is in the best interests of any visitor to the island to be aware of the numerous tourist deaths and the fact that many families of those who died on the island are not satisfied with police investigations.. Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found close to bungalows where they had been staying, Thai police say two men have confessed to killing Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, Koh Tao is a popular destination for tourists, Harry: I always felt different to rest of family, Chris Rock talks Oscars slap in live Netflix show, Everything Everywhere wins big ahead of Oscars, PM to end asylum claims from small boat arrivals, Mbappe breaks PSG goal record in win over Nantes, US-made cheese can be called 'gruyere' - court. 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In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. He said: The police are capable of little more than extracting fines from foreigners and they are in the palms of the local big families on the island.. With crystal-clear waters, perfect sandy beaches, palm trees and great nightlife. Me too :' ( she was almost unrecognizable. See the latest list of Exclusive members-only articles on StrangeOutdoors.com, https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30320196. Investigators had no theory to explain her unexpected stopover on Koh Tao on her way back to the mainland and the capital Bangkok. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:52 am, Users browsing this forum: Arget and 29 guests. Nick's father, Graham, had been the last person to see him when he walked with his son back to where the family was staying. PLEASE read up on the case first before looking for the leaked photos. Two Burmese workers, whose names were given only as Saw and Win, are said to have confessed to killing the pair, who were discovered on 15 September. Cambodia Expats Online: Forum | News | Information | Blog, Cambodia's Most Popular Expat Community Forums: Breaking News | Blogs | Nightlife | Khmer Culture | Information | Living, Working & Moving to Cambodia, Post Or is Koh Tao just unlucky for visitors or is there something more sinister happening on the beautiful Thai island and haven for Scuba divers? September 15: The semi-naked bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are discovered between 5am and 6am on Sairee Beach in Koh Tao on September 15. We have some new leads but we dont have any new suspects.. I work in digital forensics so I've seen a ton of NSFL stuff and thought I was pretty numb. RME8CHF9 - Mae Sot, Thailand. Cosmopolitan participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. I was forced to look at these photos for a DUI class when I was 14 because I was caught smoking weed. Mr Miller was spotted shaking the hand of a local person dressed in a football shirt with the number 9 on the back of it. Tourists take pictures at Sairee beach spot where Mr Miller and Hannah Witheridge were killed on Monday, Tourists continued to arrive at the island today where local businesses are hopeful the double murder doesn't ruin the islands reputation, Relatives of the pair arrived in Bangkok on Thursday as police struggle to examine forensic evidence due to lack of technology. He had recently returned to the island after building up a motorbike rental business. It was suggested the 24-year-old returned to his hotel but went back out to find Miss Witheridge before they were both murdered. BBC's 1million star Zoe Ball, 52, lands big new payday for Abba show on ITV. We are furious that we have not been able to have an approved independent forensic examination.". I just warned that sometimes people have to be careful today Thailand is safe except there are some bad guys - like anywhere in the world.'. A woman Povse had been interested in said he had called her twice on the phone that night but she had not picked up because she had been asleep. Hannah was raped before she was killed. The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. When the bodies of British tourists 23-year-old Hannah Witheridge and 24-year-old David Miller were found brutally murdered on the remote Thai island of Koh Tao, the police immediately concluded that the killer had to be a foreigner, as a Thai person couldn't be capable of such brutality. Evidence suggests the brave 24-year-old put up a fight before his death and that he was drowned. David's body is in the water in the picture captioned 'Photo of the resort' - just saying as I missed it several times when the pics first came online. It is suggested David Miller was killed with a blunt piece of metal and not the rusty garden hoe first discovered at the scene and named as a murder weapon. But among some foreigners, Koh Tao has taken on a more sinister reputation. Hannah Witheridge & David Miller: British backpackers murdered in Thailand 2014. Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun). I click the link and it just gives me the wow such empty message. 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Here, a breakdown of the investigation shows how the frantic hunt for backpackers' killers has unfolded. His body was found at the beach at the Hillside Resort on Koh Tao, on January 1, 2014. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh . The pictures, which News Corp . The Mirror reports that Hannah's family have pleaded for the photos of the pair, who were brutally murdered on a Thailand beach, to be taken off the internet.. A British male, thought to have known the two, was named as a person of interested and hunted by police after allegedly fleeing the island on an early ferry for Bangkok. Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. Police major general, Surachate Hakparn, said in an interview that the police have cracked down on crime syndicates on Koh Tao since the backpackers' double . Police have so far failed to tie anyone to the murders, David Miller (left) may have been trying to help Hannah Witheridge (right) as she was being attacked by a group on the Thai island of Koh Tao last Sunday, new evidence suggests, Police are hunting this man filmed running frantically away from the beach on the night of the murders, Another added: This is the latest in a series of bungles in this investigation. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:22 am, Post But they were skeptical and he was fit and healthy at the time of his death. They were then recorded at 12.55am leaving, stopping in a convenience store for a toasted sandwich, before walking back to their bungalow. She was said to have died of natural causes after mixing antibiotics she was taking for a chest infection with alcohol. Suter had been a regular snorkeler and his death was totally unexplained. September 19: Thai officials collect DNA samples from workers in bars and restaurants in Koh Tao. She was also part of the Sathya Sai Baba cult and lived with a self-proclaimed 'guru'. Aran Klaewklong, a security guard from Big Blue Diving shop, told police he found a mobile phone, clothes, a hotel key, shoes and an ID on the beach at 1.30 am during a beach patrol. The men who killed Till were not mentally ill and they were not penalized or ostracized for their actions. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . This could technically be counted as a crime scene as she was DUI but the aftermath of Nikki Catsouras (Porsche girl) crash is engrained on my brain forever. Bernd's cousin Christina said: ''We cannot accept what the Thai authorities on the island are telling us. So sad though! The Koh Tao murders involved the death of two British tourists in Thailand in 2014. British woman, Christina Annesley, 23, was found in a room at the In Touch Resort on Jan 21, 2015. His family accused the Thai police of a cover-up. In September 2014, two European backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found murdered on Sairee Beach on Thailand's island of Koh Tao. "Our family have been further traumatised by reports that there are numerous unnecessary and senseless photographs circulating across the internet. I have never had the courage to look. 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The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. by potty Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:51 pm, Post We are no longer accepting comments on this article. It has a population of around 1,500 people and the main settlement is Ban Mae Hat. After you reached Thailand and began your job I am certain that you would have explored Thailand and realized that what you saw in the streets and other parts of Thailand matches what was mentioned in the . However, a lawyer for Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo told the BBC that the pair had not admitted their guilt when their death sentences were commuted. The body had to be identified using dental records and previous X-rays. Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday. Officers revealed they are working on the theory that David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were killed in a copycat attack of the rape and murder of Reading University student Katherine Horton, 21, who was murdered by two Thai fishermen on the nearby island of Koh Samui on New Years Day in 2006. Derby coroner Louise Pinder said there was not enough evidence to say how he died and recorded an open verdict. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-police-parade-burmese-killers-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller-in-front-of-cameras-on-koh-tao-30635263.html, http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-10-03/funeral-of-murdered-leeds-university-student/, Official Imperial College 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread.
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